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[I15] Jean THOUMINE (1694-1730)

[I15] Jean THOUMINE (1694-1730)

Name: Jean /Thoumine/

Suffix: de la Troussaillerie

Sex: Male

Birth

Date: June 1694

Place: Vale

Death

Date: 2 June 1730

Place: Vale, Guernsey

Family as Child: [F7] ...of David THOUMINE and Aimee BUISSON

Husband: [I10] David THOUMINE (1633-1698)

Wife: [I13] Aimee BUISSON ( -1685)

Child: [I16] Marie THOUMINE (1671- )

Child: [I17] David THOUMINE (1675-1742)

Child: [I20] Roberta THOUMINE (bef1679-1679)

Child: [I19] Michel THOUMINE (bef1679-1679)

Child: [I18] Pierre THOUMINE (1683-1685)

Child: [I15] Jean THOUMINE (1694-1730)

Family as Spouse: [F10] ...of Jean THOUMINE and Elizabeth LE MASURIER

Marriage

Date: 26 December 1709

Place: Sark

Husband: [I15] Jean THOUMINE (1694-1730)

Wife: [I41] Elizabeth LE MASURIER ( - )

Child: [I42] Jean THOUMINE (1712-bef1749)

Child: [I43] Marie THOUMINE (1712-bef1728)

Child: [I44] David THOUMINE (1714-1730)

Child: [I45] Thomas THOUMINE (1717-1796)

Family as Spouse: [F11] ...of Jean THOUMINE and Marie FALLA

Marriage

Date: 21 October 1721

Place: Vale, Guernsey

Husband: [I15] Jean THOUMINE (1694-1730)

Wife: [I46] Marie FALLA ( - )

Child: [I47] Pierre THOUMINE (1722-1722)

Child: [I48] Pierre THOUMINE (1723- )

Child: [I49] Marie THOUMINE (1728-1746)

Child: [I50] Elizabeth THOUMINE (1726-1812)

 

Jean Thoumine was David’s brother. 

 

By the 1727 Livre de Perchage Jean was 'de la Troussaillerie au Valle'.  However by 1730 & two marriages (the first in Sark when he was 17) he was dead.

 

Whether his first son Jean died before 1769 together with his children is not know, but in the 1769 Livre, his second son Thomas held La Troussaillerie.

 

Thomas had married in April 1742, Marie Roberge, whose parents had died in the epidemic leaving Marie as the eldest of five children.  One supposes this was a good move for Thomas to help out

this unfortunate girl having to bring up her siblings.

Her brother Pierre of course inherited most of their parents property but Marie’s share of several vergées came into the Thoumine family.  Her brother Pierre married Thomas’ sister Elizabeth in 1748.

 

Rachel Roberge, their sister, died in 1758 age 25.  The entry in the burial register reads

“ qui par demanie se branla dans la maison de Thomas Thoumine la justice a declare le fait job feu de ministre du valee” (found hanged)

 

There are two lines from which all the present-day Guernsey Thoumines descend from.  One which came from France in the middle of the 19th century and the other being the descendants of Thomas. 

It was his grandchildren who left the parish for St Sampson’s & St Peter Port in the nineteenth century.

 

His son David, 1757-1842, former Douzainier, died in the Country Hospital – a quarryman, ‘of La Troussaillerie’.

 

 

LA TROUSSAILLERIE

 

Perrys                     11 G/1

McCormack           not listed as demolished by 1922, now part of Rocques Barrées enclos.

Cadastre reference C/538

 

1591           La Terre de Querpentier des dessus La Bordage Estienne Renaut  commençant en la Maison et mesnages au filles de Guillaume Perrin et Premier -

La hougue au voist de la ditte maison                                                                                                                                                                          4v  11p

1624           15 May, a document of mentions ‘un camp Le Troussessair in area of Ville es pies/Vale Mill/Juas (reference mislaid).

1646           Pierre Troussey à cause de sa mere fille de Guillaume Perrin à en sa Maison & mesnage et terre tenante                                                                            4v   06p

1727           Commensant à La Maison et terre tenante de Jean Touminne                                                                                                                                          4v   11p

1767           Commensant à La Maison & terre tenante de Thomas Thoumine                                                                                                                                     4v   11p

1827           Census Moise Le Poidevin, Marie Roberge (daughter of Pierre Roberge & Elizabeth Thoumine) & Esther Mahy living there.

1836           Commencant a la Maison et terre de la Trousaillerie, appartenant à Thomas Falla, fils de Jean, ec.                                                                                   6v   05p

1841           Census - inhabitants unclear

1879           Commençant à la Maison et terre de la Troussaillerie, appartenant à Thomas J.B. Falla, écr.                                                                                           6v   05p

1881           Census George Downton & family inhabitants

1891           Census  John Downton & family inhabitants

1901           Census inhabited by John Tuck (quarryman) & family

1901 29 May The Rocques Barrées estate was sold by the nieces  (inheritors) of T J B Falla, to Mowlem & Co including ‘La maison, jardins et hougue de

                                la Troussallerie, le jardin & courtil dits Le Menage et le courtil Trousse – Le tout joignant ensemble & formant l’enclos des Rocques Barrées

1922           Commençant á la terre de la Troussaillerie appartenant á Msrs Mowlem et Cie                                                                                                               6v   05p

1952           Commençant à la terre de la Troussaillerie appartenant à M. P.J. Le Maitre                                                                                                                     6v   05p